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<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM>People try to put us d-down
</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM>Talkin' 'bout my generation<BR>Just
because we get around </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM>Talkin' 'bout my generation<BR>Things
they do look awful c-c-cold </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM>Talkin' 'bout my generation<BR>I hope I
die before I get old </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM>Talkin' 'bout my
generation</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"><EM>-- Pete Townshend (born
1945)</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">Oboy, this is more fun than Hummists vs.
Anti-Hummists.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">I'd hoped to keep this just my
shameful secret, but yeah, I'm an AARP member. My wife makes me ask for the
motel discounts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">Miranda, your vigorous bigotry against
the superannuated is charming, a breath of youthful fresh air. I hope you cling
to it well into your sixties and seventies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">Is a reluctance to join social
networking sites the new test for being a Luddite?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">My brief daliance with Facebook got me a
lovely post from one of my 2,690 friends, Brandi, an Internet sex
worker. That's when I pulled the plug.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">Rather than bash Facebook, I'd prefer to
talk about the sense of comfort I've enjoyed on f_minor V.1 . Safety
and privacy issues never once crossed my mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Courier New">But this is the first I've heard that
f_minor is also a Facebook page.</FONT></DIV><FONT size=4
face="Courier New"><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR>That is So Wicked Awesome.
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>But I think I'll pass, and stick with V.1 . I can handle a little rejection
now and then, if that's the price I have to pay for the f_minor community I've
grown used to.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Geezer Bob</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>* * *</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Rockin' Chair<BR>Hoagy Carmichael (1929)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Old rockin' chair's got me<BR>my cane by my side<BR>fetch me
that gin, son<BR>'fore I tan your hide<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>can't get from this cabin, <BR>I ain't goin' nowhere<BR>just
set me here grabbin' <BR>at the flies round this rockin' chair</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>My dear old aunt Harriet<BR>in Heaven she be<BR>send me sweet
chariot<BR>for the end of the trouble I see</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Old rockin' chair gets it<BR>Judgment Day is here<BR>I'm just
chained to my rockin' chair</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>* * *</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The Guardian (UK)<BR>Monday 8 March 2010</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Facebook murderer who posed as teenager <BR>to lure victim jailed for
life</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><EM><STRONG>Peter Chapman, who lured 17-year-old Ashleigh Hall
with a fake internet profile, had history of sex
offences</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>by Helen Carter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>A serial sex offender was today sentenced to life in prison
after he admitted kidnapping, raping and murdering a teenager whom he ensnared
using a fake profile on Facebook.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Peter Chapman was told he must serve at least 35 years in
prison by judge Peter Fox today, following the killing of Ashleigh Hall, who was
17.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The judge said he was "a very great danger to young women, and
for what it is worth, I cannot foresee your release".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Sentencing him at Teesside crown court, the judge said Chapman
had been the architect of "an evil scheme, very carefully brought, and with
considerable detail, to trap your victim".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The killer had claimed to be a handsome teenager and used the
profile to lure the teenager into meeting him after he befriended her through
Facebook.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>In reality, he was an emaciated, 33-year-old convicted double
rapist, who was almost toothless and living in his car.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Graham Reeds QC, for the prosecution, told the court Chapman
had claimed to be called DJ Pete or Pete Cartwright.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>"The photograph is not of him. It is of a barechested and
good-looking boy, who is apparently in his late teens."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Chapman was, in fact, "a somewhat plainer-looking man who
could pass for being rather older than his 33 years. When she met him on 25
October last year, he kidnapped, raped and murdered her."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The prosecutor described how the teenager suffered from
low-esteem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The night before Ashleigh's body was found, she had told her
mother she was going to stay with a friend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>In order to entice her into his car, Chapman sent her a text
message saying the boy's father would pick her up. He texted her to say: "My
Dad's on his way, babe."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>She replied: "He's here, babe." Once in the car, he attacked
her.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Ashleigh's body was found dumped in a farmer's field near
Sedgefield, County Durham, in October. Her arms were bound and tape was put over
her face, suffocating her to death.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Chapman was arrested by chance in a separate police inquiry
after a nationwide alert went out to trace his car after he had failed to comply
with the requirements of his sex offenders' registration. During initial
interviews he told police they could "crush his car". He later lost his nerve
and confessed to murder.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Seen on CCTV at Middlesbrough police station, he tells a
custody officer: "I killed someone last night. I need to tell somebody from CID
where the body is. It hasn't been reported yet."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Detective Inspector Mick Callan, head of Durham police's major
crime team, said: "The truth is he is a predatory sex offender who, through the
tentacles of the internet, could reach out to the young and the
vulnerable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>"He knows full well that using his real name and picture would
not grab the attention of any young woman for a moment. But by using the picture
of a good-looking young man as a cover he has woven a web of attraction and
deceit that has sadly had a murderous ending."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Chapman, who was brought up by his grandparents in
Stockton-on-Tees, has a history of sexual offending. He was the subject of
several sexual assault investigations, beginning when he was 15. Four years
later, in 1996, he received a seven-year prison sentence for raping two
prostitutes at knifepoint during separate incidents and was released in
2001.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The following year Cheshire police questioned him over the
rape and kidnap of a prostitute in Ellesmere Port. The case was
discontinued.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Speaking outside court Andrea Hall, Ashleigh's mother, said
the authorities should have done more to monitor Chapman's whereabouts after his
release from prison. "They are the sort of people who should be tagged and they
should be kept an eye on all the time. They shouldn't be allowed out into
society anyway."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Mrs Hall, 39, also said it was wrong that Chapman, as a
registered sex offender, was able to post online as a teenage boy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>"He took somebody else's photo and put it on the internet and
has been posing behind this photo. It is awful to think that there's actually a
boy out there and he is using his photo to prey on young girls."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Mrs Hall, who has three other daughters, said she was
powerless to stop Ashleigh going out on the night she met Chapman. "What could I
have done?" she asked. "She was 17. You don't stop your kids from going
out."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>She recalled the horror of hearing a police officer answer her
daughter's phone, having attempted to contact her mobile on 30 occasions. She
said: "I could understand it if Ashleigh had died because of illness but to
actually have someone take someone's life is just unbearable."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=center><FONT size=3>- 30 -</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mapleleafm@hotmail.com href="mailto:mapleleafm@hotmail.com">Miranda
Carnessale</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=f_minor@glenngould.org
href="mailto:f_minor@glenngould.org">f_minor@glenngould.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:04
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [f_minor] "facebook"</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV>Ms. Jensen, how old are you? Your
opinion of Facebook reminds me of numerous AARP members who over the years
have vocalized their disdain for whatever new form of technology has flooded
market. I happen to like Facebook. It's a technological trend that
I am embracing and using to my advantage. I'm just curious if you
thought everyone would agree with you because this forum is supposed to be a
group of serious intellectuals who look down upon childish trends, or if you
were looking to pick a fight with an ignorant Rock 'n Roll Gould fan such as
myself? Oh well, never mind, after all this is a Glenn Gould forum, not
a technology forum, and as we all know, GG had absolutely no interest in
stupid technological trends...<BR><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3
face="Times New Roman"><BR>Miranda Carnessale</FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3 face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><BR>P.S. If
you are so paranoid about privacy don't put anything on the internet you don't
want anyone to know about. <BR>If you are worried about being part of
the 'mass hypnosis' delete all your internet accounts and donate your computer
and cell phone to charity. <BR><BR><BR>
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From: maryellenjensen28@hotmail.com<BR>To: f_minor@glenngould.org<BR>Date:
Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:53:12 +0200<BR>Subject: [f_minor] "facebook"<BR><BR>
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<BR><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4 face="Times New Roman">Dear Dominico
Scarlatti; absolutely nothing personal intended. </FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4 face="Times New Roman">Don't get your knickers
in such a twist over my honest comments. I have yet to see anyone willing to
confront a firing squad in defence of 'Facebook' and I hope I never will
...</FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4
face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4
face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4
face="Times New Roman">Mary Jensen</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>