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<DIV>I completely agree with Pat, this sick world, as usual, celebrates
exploiters as gods:</DIV>
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<DIV><A
href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382396/Workers-Chinese-Apple-factories-forced-sign-pledges-commit-suicide.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382396/Workers-Chinese-Apple-factories-forced-sign-pledges-commit-suicide.html</A></DIV>
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<DIV><A
href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389218/iPad2-factory-explosion-Fire-building-China-kills-workers.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389218/iPad2-factory-explosion-Fire-building-China-kills-workers.html</A></DIV>
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<DIV>And oh yes he was certainly a genius in his field (marketing) but he isn't
certainly sitting beside Leonardo right now, sorry.</DIV>
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<DIV>OT off from me too,<BR>Stefy</DIV>
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<A title=pzumst@bluewin.ch href="mailto:pzumst@bluewin.ch">p z</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=f_minor@glenngould.org
href="mailto:f_minor@glenngould.org">Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn
Gould.</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [f_minor] Jobs' death</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'"
size=4>Well, I was not trolling and I have not failed. Maybe I was
inappropriate but because the Haigiography is already at work in the media I
may as well be heretical in the case of the late Mr Jobs.<BR></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>Please keep in
mind that GG's popularity is not just based on the music but also his
Haigiography (the chair, humming, eccentricities etc). Hereafter stands well
as Exibit A here I reckon. Or, as a general example Walter Miller's satire
Canticle for Leibowitz in which Haigiography goes horribly wrong for a while,
with devastating consequences</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>The Cult of
Personality has reached heights these days that scare me. Today I saw pictures
of people paying tribute with flowers and candles to Mr Jobs. Wich is all nice
and fine.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>But the cult
that was made around Apple and Jobs was sometimes so overwhelming it hurts and
was almost the equivalent of religious extasis while their products were
overrated and overpriced. Not to mention that they stopped making cool stuff
but only products for the mass market.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>Again, nothing
against the fact that people pay their respect, but there is something here
that is nagging me. Probably the Haigiography. Does it bother me that "we"
believe in brands now (and to a certain extent even GG is a brand) instead of
ideas or philosophical concepts ? Yes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>GG was fully
aware that his manierisms would give him more press and help to sell records,
he perfected this art to final self-deconstruction.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>Jobs, an
entrepreneur, was also arare of the power of Haigiography and milked that cow
to a point where it even might have scared him.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>At least in
the case of GG there is substance behind the Haigiography. And of course Mr
Jobs' demise is sad. But the Apple hype is just that, a hype.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'" size=4>OT off from
me</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Grande'"
size=4>Pat</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Am 06.10.2011 um 20:04 schrieb Erich Schmidt:</DIV><BR
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fail, Pat. Nice troll, though.
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<DIV>On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:57 PM, p z wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>Hi all, also OT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Now suppose I were to sell you a "computer" with a hard
disk of 64 GB (no SSD), a 10 inch screen with ridiculously low resolution
and 2 old VGA cameras, 1 GHz Intel DualCore chip (haha), no USB, no
Firewire, but a hilariously closed pseudo operating system that needs its
own store. If you buy summet from that store 30 % of what you pay goes to
me. this device cannot do basic functions such as copy/paste or play
certain video or audio formats. compared to this environment North Korea
looks like Las Vegas. But hey, the design and the form factor are
absolutely amazing and genius so I am going to create a huge buzz behind a
veil of secrecy call it the reinvention of the computer and charge you
"just" 800 Euros for that, plus data plan from carrier on which I might
have a percentage), make sure it becomes a cult object sold to millions
who don't really need this thing and enter the history books and the
annals of IT Hagiography, Myth and Legend
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<DIV>Somehow I cannot help but to admire such chuzpe.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pat</DIV>
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<DIV>Am 06.10.2011 um 15:58 schrieb maryellen jensen:</DIV><BR
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<DIV dir=ltr><BR><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman"
size=4>One cannot say this is OT - Jobs dying is THE
TOPIC<I>everywhere</I><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman" size=4><BR></FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman" size=4>I just want to
pass along a link to one of the longest published interviews Jobs ever
did,</FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman"
size=4><BR></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman"
size=4><BR></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman"
size=4>The Playboy Interview 1985:</FONT><BR><BR><A
href="http://www.txtpost.com/playboy-interview-steven-jobs/">http://www.txtpost.com/playboy-interview-steven-jobs/</A><BR><BR><BR><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" face="Times New Roman" size=4>Mary</FONT><FONT
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