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<DIV><FONT size=3>Fred, Brett and All</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>And even more controversy: Glenn Gould vs the World - see
article below:</FONT></DIV>
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href="http://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/Article/317784,glenn-gould-vs-the-world.aspx"><FONT
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Katherine</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>PS:
<DIV><FONT size=3>Wasn't it Van Cliburn who sneezed over the
phone??</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/4/2012 5:35:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
brettab@ihug.com.au writes:</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Wasn’t it Brendel
who, having some time to kill, decided to phone Gould from the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Toronto</st1:place></st1:City> airport? When he
sneezed over the phone, Gould was supposed to have hung up. Talk about
hypochondria in excelsis!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Brett<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> f_minor
[mailto:f_minor-bounces@glenngould.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Houpt, Fred<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:04
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> sales@induscandia.se;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn
Gould.</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [f_minor] Beethoven for
Fred</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That's a bit of a
stretch. Worst pianist ever? Don't think many in this group will
stand with you on your opinion. </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fred</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:f_minor-bounces@glenngould.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Induscandia<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:27
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn
Gould.</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [f_minor] Beethoven for
Fred<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Brendler is just a
stupid fraud, worst pianst ever. </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Well you know I
greatly admire Brendel and had the joy to hear him in concert in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Toronto</st1:place></st1:City>.
However, his comments about GG are about as far off the mark as he accuses
Gould of. However, Brendel is singing from his own well known song
book and he represents a Germanic purist school which has it's fans, it has
it's strengths and after a while it's obvious short comings. One
cannot ever recall hearing a piano piece of Beethoven, Schubert or Schuman
played by Kempf as revelatory. Never. Beautifully played but
always "urtext", safe and within proper boundaries, that Brendel refers
to. Kempf's music making was never boring but it was always
predictable. </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Gould hated this
mentality and as an artist he resolutely waged war against that school of
thought. Brendel is correct in suggesting that some (he would say
most) of Gould's interpretations are not successful. I would never
refer to Brendel's "Goldburg Variations" (did he record it?) but I would
listen to Murray Peraiah, Ivo Pogerelich or Angela Hewitt. I cannot
possibly imagine Horowitz trying the Goldberg's nor would I encourage that
entire generation of titans (including Artur Rubinstein). Perish the
thought. Though, Brendel's unkind words about Horowitz do not take
into consideration the dazzling Scarlatti - especially the younger
Horowitz. Brendel does not like Rach, ok. I happen to adore
Rach's music and yes, it is often heart on the sleeve but for me it all
radiates great musicality and emotion. Especially delightful are some
unusual harmonic cadences that come out of nowhere.....I love his
music...what can I say?</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fred</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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f_minor [mailto:f_minor-bounces@glenngould.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>maryellen
jensen<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
October 03, 2012 7:26 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> f_minor@glenngould.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [f_minor] Beethoven for
Fred<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">Fred,<BR><BR> A bit of der
Brendel on your chosen topic:<BR><BR><EM><B><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
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class=ecxreadable><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">A</SPAN></I></SPAN><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> well-known American author...once asked various
pianists what they thought of Horowitz. I was unable to contribute to his
book because, as I told him, I was more interested in musical realities than
musical myths.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I was not as enthusiastic about Horowitz the
artist as many of my colleagues. And I was not so captivated by him as a
pianist either, since I found that his kind of virtuosity rarely served the
music as I understood it.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">...you can either illuminate
works with a spotlight from without, or develop them from within....the
spotlights from without are embodied for me particularly clearly in Glenn
Gould. In my view, he was not interested in deciphering a work from within,
but wished instead, as unexpectedly as possible, to illuminate it from
without. He went so far as to actually hamper an understanding of a
composer, and maltreat him, in order to be original at all costs. It was
clearly compulsive.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Gould to me was a classic
example of what a performer should not be; as an eccentric, he seemed
determined to oppose the wishes of the composer or go against the character
of the piece.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I've always asked myself: why does this man, who
is so gifted, treat composers in such a disgraceful way? It seems to me that
quite a few people love this kind of sadism...There is nothing wrong in
playing pieces in a variety of ways - but please do so within the limits,
within the character and structure of the piece itself. Gould deliberately
oversteps these limits, or he is simply not aware of
them.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">...it seems to me that he has no interest in all
in the character of the piece. He is not aware that it exists...He does not
consider that there might be a character which is indissolubly connected
with the piece, which one must find and bring to
life.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I have to accept that Gould's playing can on
occasions be revelatory. But I do not think this is due to psychological
understanding, but rather to chance - the desire to do what is
unexpected.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I am not a Rachmaninov fan. The piano repertoire
is vast, and Rachmaninov to me seems a waste of
time.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">...among [Rachmaninov's] works for piano, above
all the piano concertos, there is nothing that I find captivating, enough to
recommend to a young pianist. Nor has the third piano concerto ever
convinced me."</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR></SPAN></I><BR><SPAN
class=ecxreadable>The book is in Q & A format (the questioner is Martin
Meyer, literary editor of the </SPAN><EM><I><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Neue Zurcher Zeitung</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><SPAN
class=ecxreadable>) and the sections are Life, About Music, On Performance,
On Writing (Brendel has published essays and poetry), and an
Epilogue.</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN class=ecxreadable> The book in question
is: </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<H1><B><FONT size=5 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">Me of All People: Alfred
Brendel in Conversation with Martin Meyer </SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></H1>
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face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">by</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
size=5 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 16pt"> <A
title=http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/390865.Alfred_Brendel
href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/390865.Alfred_Brendel"
target=_blank>Alfred Brendel</A>, <A
title=http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/327188.Martin_Meyer
href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/327188.Martin_Meyer"
target=_blank>Martin Meyer</A>, <A
title=http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/447942.Richard_Stokes
href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/447942.Richard_Stokes"
target=_blank>Richard Stokes</A> <SPAN
class=ecxauthornameecxgreytextecxsmalltextecxrole>(Translator)</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><BR><BR><A
title=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiX3Rof5E00
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiX3Rof5E00"
target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiX3Rof5E00</A><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=ecxauthornameecxgreytextecxsmalltextecxrole><FONT size=5
face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">Mary</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
size=5 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 16pt"><BR><BR><SPAN
class=ecxauthornameecxgreytextecxsmalltextecxrole>PS There's an
interesting 2 dvd documentary "<U>Alfred Brendel: In Portrai</U>t" - visit
your local University Library for further details...
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Date: Mon, 1
Oct 2012 15:52:51 -0700<BR>From: boyboy_8@yahoo.com<BR>To:
f_minor@glenngould.org<BR>Subject: [f_minor]
Beethoven<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On the recent CBC radio Sunday program
that Michael Enright did with Robert Harris, Harris mentioned a CBC
recording (many years ago) of GG playing Beethoven's Tempest piano sonata
(#17). I do believe that the one I've posted here is part 1 of this
sonata. As Harris explained, GG often ignored the composer tempo
and dynamic markings were in search of what "the music" was asking
for. This was a curious but I think accurate insight into GG's
mind. When I hear GG doing this Tempest, there are several things to
look for. Notice that he is conducting all the time, breathing with
the music as if it was a symphony. In his lectures, famous
Beethoven specialist Andras Schiff often explains that Beethoven was first
and foremost a symphonist and his sonatas reflect symphonic architecture
reduced to two hands. This is also correct and in GG's performance he
is approaching the sonata as if it was a symphony. Notice as well how
he handles the motifs that sound like a soloist singing a single musical
line. Gould takes extra time to allow the notes of the motif to rise
up in melancholy, expressing such depth of Beethoven emotion. The
entire movement, for me, is extraordinary and I cannot remember hearing it
done with more pathos and introspection. Incredible.....and totally
unique interpretation. But again, Gould has sought to make the music
sound fresh and all the while respecting the meaning that the music has
within itself. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fred
Houpt<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Toronto</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:City><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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